Joined on this episode by the one and only Jonathan Brumley, and I was very excited for the conversation!  Jonathan put up with me bouncing his scrap all around to different dates, but he stuck with me and we made it happen.  We talk about the challenges of advancing big lines, training methodologies, getting out of the firehouse and training in your district... the difference between goals and dreams and so much more!  All of this plus everything that the amazing live audience threw our way!