Joined on this episode by two awesome guests. One of my favorite people on the planet in Chief Frank Leeb, and the other one that I am excited to meet and have an awesome conversation with in Kory Pearn.  We plan to talk about all the issues that can blindside us in the fire-service. The mission of Crackyl magazine.  Cancer, Cardiac, Physical fitness. How can we ensure that a young firefighter becomes an old firefighter! an informative conversation and as always the best laid plans of me and my guests was beautifully derailed by the awesome question from the Scrap audience.