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**WEBBY AWARD FOR BEST MUSIC PODCAST** “#1 music industry podcast to help keep you in the loop” -Spotify “The 10 Best Music Business Podcasts of 2022" – Variety Ari Herstand is the best-selling author of How To Make It in the New Music Business. Forbes calls him “The poster child of DIY music.” In this show, he deconstructs the brightest minds in the music industry, digging deep to find the tools, tactics, and strategies that listeners can use to run successful careers of their own. Ari offers straight talk with no fluff and doesn’t let his guests off easy. If there is a way, Ari will find it.
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This week, Ari is joined by David Rishty, the President of Palm Tree Records. They discuss Palm Tree’s partnership with Sony, the value of radio and satellite platforms like SiriusXM, and the many ways labels can help with artist development. Palm Tree Records is a joint venture with Sony Music, co-founded by Kygo and his manager, Miles. It operates as an indie label with major label resources, providing a small, tight-knit team and the support of a major label when needed.
David Rishty's journey in the music industry began as a writer, penning features for a variety of publications including Billboard. During his tenure there, he launched the Billboard Dance 100 artist ranking and partnered with top brands including SiriusXM and Apple Music. His passion for building a brand crossed over to artist development early on in his rise with the founding of Exchange Management. In the seven years since its inception, Rishty’s artist roster has collectively earned more than 600 million streams and performed at over 400 shows. He has since brought this management mindset to Palm Tree Records, providing a holistic approach to artist development and creating a boutique label experience. Palm Tree’s roster remains select at less than a dozen artists, yet has amassed over 750 million total streams to date. Chapters
00:00 The Evolution of Dance Music and DJ Culture 05:14 The Role of Major Label Resources in Artist Development 09:04 The Importance of Radio Promotion and Other Revenue Verticals 11:24 Building a Brand and Fan Base with Palm Tree Records 24:00 Releasing Music and Establishing a Presence During the Pandemic 28:49 The Impact of SiriusXM and the Different Radio Landscape 35:18 The Power of Short-Form Video Content 47:21 The Importance of Trust in Label-Artist Relationships 55:28 Defining Success in the Music Industry
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How a Sony JV Record Label Develops Artists

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This week, Ari is joined by Laura Jones, a producer manager and founder of Little Underground Management. They discuss negotiating contracts, signing up and coming producers, and navigating royalty splits. Little Underground Management represents producers and helps connect them with artists, with her role being 50% creative and 50% business administration. On the creative side, she acts as a musical matchmaker, connecting producers with artists, songwriters, and engineers. On the business side, she negotiates fees, contracts, and schedules, and oversees the entire recording process. In this conversation, Ari and Laura discuss the complexities of songwriting and publishing splits in the music industry. They explore how songwriting credits are determined, the challenges of splitting royalties, and the politics involved in negotiating publishing deals. Laura shares insights into how deals are structured, the importance of contracts, and the challenges of getting paid in a timely manner. 
Chapters
00:00 The Importance of Contracts for Producers 02:23 Understanding Master Royalties and Publishing 09:39 The Role of Producer Managers in Connecting Producers with Artists 23:33 How Producer Deals Work: Fees and Royalties 34:01 Navigating Different Genres and Deal Structures 36:28 The Complexities of Publishing Rights 49:40 Challenges of Getting Paid in the Music Industry 53:49 The Importance of Contracts for Producers and Songwriters 01:02:19 Finding a Manager as a Producer
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Producer Manager on Points, Payment, Sessions and Publishing

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Serona Elton serves as Head of Educational Partnerships for The Mechanical Licensing Collective (The MLC). In this role, Elton directs The MLC’s efforts to engage future members of the music industry currently studying music business and related subjects at colleges and universities across the country and around the world. 
With extensive experience as a music industry professional and educator, Elton is also a professor and Director of the Music Industry Program at the University of Miami Frost School of Music. In 2023, she was named Music Business Educator of the Year by the Music Business Association. She is also a Yamaha Master Educator.
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00:00 Introduction and Background 07:30 Changes in Mechanical Licensing 21:21 Releasing Co-Written Songs 25:06 Introduction to the MLC 29:33 Calculating Royalties for Streams 40:40 Relationship Between the MLC and PROs 49:32 International Mechanical Royalties 54:21 The Role of Legislation in the Music Industry 01:00:41 Calculating Mechanical Royalties 01:07:38 Defining Success in the Music Business
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Understanding How Digital & Physical Mechanical Royalties Work

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Beginning his tenth year in the music industry today, Will Runzel is co-founder of Prodigy Artists. He got his start throwing Hip-Hop concerts (Big Sean, Jeremih, Mike Posner, Twista) in college towns in the midwest, Steve Aoki brought him to LA to head up Dim Mak Live for a year before heading up React Presents West Coast division and another year with LED Presents / Goldenvoice (booking Jamie XX, M83, Calvin Harris). Around that time he started what is now known as Collectiv Presents with Chris Den Uijl, as well as his management company Prodigy Artists alongside Steven Haddad. Today, Runzel is the CEO of Prodigy Artists who represent SLANDER, Deorro, NGHTMRE, Guy Gerber, Audien as well as Grammy-nominated producers Bekon & The Donuts. This week, Ari and Will discuss various aspects of the dance music industry, including revenue streams, remixes, and the role of managers. He emphasizes the importance of touring for bass music artists and the unique nature of their merchandise sales. Will also explains the business model of remixes and additionally highlights the need for data collection and retargeting in the new music business. Chapters
00:00 Remixes and Original Music 10:12 SLANDER, NGHTMRE, and Deorro 29:07 Revenue and Profitability of Shows 36:16 Revenue Breakdown for Bass Music Artists 41:53 Reselling Records 50:21 Managing Record Producers 57:43 The Challenges of Playing at the Sphere

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SLANDER, Deorro, NGHTMRE Manager on Selling 400K Tix In a Year, Building Electronic Artists & DJs

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Moody Jones is an entrepreneurial entertainment executive and artist who thrives on creating new rules and executing unique concepts. Currently, he’s the GM of Dance at EMPIRE – an independent distribution company and record label pioneering the future generation of the music business.
This week, Ari is joined by GM of Dance at EMPIRE, Moody Jones, to discuss Empire's business model, the dance music industry, and the role of an executive in supporting artists. They discuss various aspects of the music industry, including consumer behavior on social media, the impact of UMG on artists, advice for aspiring producers and DJs, the importance of art in everything you do, discovering and signing new artists, release frequency, and what it means to make it in the new music business.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Overview of Empire 05:09 The Dance Division and the Dance Market 15:02 Measuring Success and Revenue Streams 23:02 Consumer Behavior on Social Media 26:00 Advice for Aspiring Producers and DJs 30:23 Building Relationships with Artists 37:38 Release Frequency and Removing Songs from DSPs 44:30 What It Means to Make It in the New Music Business

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