Javier and Shannan pick up where they left off on the last podcast and discuss conflict, arguments, and what it means to have a selfless mindset.  No relationship is immune to conflict; it is a part of life, and we need not fear it.  Javier peels back the layers of conflict to help couples engage well, respond vs react, and what a win for our marriage looks like.

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The "Original" Marriage Flippers

Meet the Labradors—Javier and Shannan. Married 33 years, they’ve weathered the highs, lows, and everything in between—and now their mission is simple: to see marriages thrive, not just survive. As sought-after conference speakers, authors, podcast hosts, and creators of 24/7 Marriage Bootcamps—3-day intensives that help couples hit reset—they bring humor, honesty, and hard-won wisdom to every conversation.

Restoring Hope. Redeeming Stories. Rebuilding Strong Marriages.
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