Randy is joined by long-time friend and past guest, Hal Herring. They summarize a day of walleye fishing that allowed them to discuss many topics, danger in focusing on abstraction, including do our actions mirror our words, how we can do better, paying more for the comforts we demand, society being subsidized by nature, spending the resource inheritance of future generations, getting people to think about their actions, Hal's public land book, Tecumseh as an example for hunter advocacy, and tons of tangents that give incentive to stand for what we believe in.

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