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In this episode of the Quality of Mind: Transforming Business podcast, Piers is joined once again by regular guest and fellow Quality of Mind collaborator Katrijn Van Oudheudsen to explore her newly republished book, Seeing No Self.
At a time when modern culture increasingly promotes self-optimisation, productivity hacks, and constant self-improvement, this conversation questions a deeper assumption behind it all: the idea that we are a separate psychological self who must constantly be fixed, improved, and managed.
Through the lens of Direct Inquiry, Katrijn explains why this belief sits at the root of much unnecessary stress, pressure, and psychological effort — and how investigating our experience directly can reveal something very different.
Rather than offering another philosophy, mindset technique, or spiritual belief system, Seeing No Self invites readers to explore a practical and experiential approach to discovering what we actually are before the psychological identity we spend so much energy maintaining.
The conversation explores why this understanding is becoming increasingly relevant in a culture driven by identity, performance pressure, and personal responsibility — and why direct inquiry offers a simple yet powerful way to look beyond it.
00:00 The Pressure of Modern Self-Improvement
Buy, read and review the book now.
You can find out more about Katrijn Van Oudheusden and her work on Daily Non-Duality Substack.
Explore all things Quality of Mind at
Watch past clients talk about the power of Quality of Mind here.
Follow Piers Thurston on LinkedIn for regular posts and reflections.
Subscribe to the Quality of Mind YouTube channel for short insight videos exploring Before Psychology.
TASTE THE MANGO — YouTube all about Direct Inquiry. Explore for yourself.
If this episode speaks to you, please follow, share, and leave a review. It helps more people discover a conversation that could genuinely change how they understand themselves, their work, and their lives.
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In this episode of the Quality of Mind: Transforming Business podcast, Piers is joined once again by regular guest and fellow Quality of Mind collaborator Katrijn Van Oudheudsen to explore her newly republished book, Seeing No Self.
At a time when modern culture increasingly promotes self-optimisation, productivity hacks, and constant self-improvement, this conversation questions a deeper assumption behind it all: the idea that we are a separate psychological self who must constantly be fixed, improved, and managed.
Through the lens of Direct Inquiry, Katrijn explains why this belief sits at the root of much unnecessary stress, pressure, and psychological effort — and how investigating our experience directly can reveal something very different.
Rather than offering another philosophy, mindset technique, or spiritual belief system, Seeing No Self invites readers to explore a practical and experiential approach to discovering what we actually are before the psychological identity we spend so much energy maintaining.
The conversation explores why this understanding is becoming increasingly relevant in a culture driven by identity, performance pressure, and personal responsibility — and why direct inquiry offers a simple yet powerful way to look beyond it.
00:00 The Pressure of Modern Self-Improvement
Buy, read and review the book now.
You can find out more about Katrijn Van Oudheusden and her work on Daily Non-Duality Substack.
Explore all things Quality of Mind at
Watch past clients talk about the power of Quality of Mind here.
Follow Piers Thurston on LinkedIn for regular posts and reflections.
Subscribe to the Quality of Mind YouTube channel for short insight videos exploring Before Psychology.
TASTE THE MANGO — YouTube all about Direct Inquiry. Explore for yourself.
If this episode speaks to you, please follow, share, and leave a review. It helps more people discover a conversation that could genuinely change how they understand themselves, their work, and their lives.

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