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What It Takes To Work In A BBQ Joint and Plate or Hate


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What does it really take to work in a BBQ joint?


In this host-driven episode of Smokeless, Wayne Mueller (Louie Mueller Barbecue), Justin Fourton (Pecan Lodge), and Nick Pencis (Stanley’s Famous Pit BBQ) answer listener questions and pull back the curtain on the reality of life inside a barbecue restaurant.


From fire management and overnight brisket cooks to hospitality, burnout, teamwork, consistency, and restaurant culture — the guys explain why great BBQ is about much more than cooking meat.


The episode also dives into:

  • The history and evolution of Texas barbecue
  • Why brisket became king
  • Sauce debates
  • Cooking techniques
  • BBQ restaurant economics
  • Prime cost
  • Hospitality philosophy
  • Why most people underestimate restaurant work


Plus: Plate or Hate returns as the guys review listener-submitted briskets, ribs, and BBQ creations.

This episode is funny, brutally honest, insightful, and packed with behind-the-scenes stories from three award-winning pitmasters who live this life every day.


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