We like Kate Simpson, a doctor and a Research Associate at the School of Design Engineering, Imperial College London.

It was a bit of a weird episode where the conversation didn't really go to plan and, at times, Jeff found himself being interviewed by our guest. It was good though.

From a researcher's perspective, we discussed what motivates retrofit consumers and suppliers, as well as the potential for and nature of retrofit one-stop shops.

Notes from the episode

• Michael Gove dancing
• That rhizome concept
• The Green Register (Bristol)
• A bad-quality retrofit LinkedIn post
• Another bad-quality retrofit LinkedIn post
• The PH+ article about getting tradespeople into retrofit 

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