Volatile political and economic conditions make projections about building future wealth difficult in today’s world. This discussion with economic and investment experts spans from the bird’s eye view to the kitchen table, shedding some light on the blend of factors that move our money. David Rubenstein, the co-founder of the Carlyle Group joins consultant and NYU economics professor emeritus Nouriel Roubini and Arjun Sethi, the co-CEO of cryptocurrency exchange Kraken, on stage at the 2025 Aspen Ideas Festival. The executive editorial director of Fortune, Diane Brady, moderates the conversation.