The tag line on Jertaker's profile read, "I’m an American Musician, Entrepreneur, Content Creator, Wrestler and Student Nurse from Buffalo NY." That was intriguing right away and as I looked into him more I realized he was a Youtube content creator, who did crazy things on video (getting pepper sprayed, tasered, etc.), made his own music videos, and wrestled in an independent wrestling league. I like to think of my self as an open minded, non judgmental person, but even I quickly started to draw a conclusion about who "Jertaker" was. He must be one of these young people who thinks life is all about getting likes and attention. He is a product of the age we live in now, where it is all superficial social media stuff and no one ever really wants to grow up to take on real world responsibility.
But that is why I do this show. I don't want to be that person that just assumes or judges people based on some preconception I have about life. I want to understand what, if anything, is actually underneath someone like Jertaker's approach to life. I want to get to have an in depth conversation to see what it's really all about. What I learned from this conversation and his value of "fully experiencing life" (which we realized mid way through was actually his value); is that this was not superficial at all for Jertaker. The approach he is taking, to try and fully embrace life, live it to the fullest, and experience as many different things as he can is very real and logical to him. He loves life and learning new things. He has realized that he loves music, and content creation, and marketing, and nursing, and wrestling, and on and on. The interesting thing about him though is that, unlike me and many others, he doesn't have a voice in his head that tells him "well that is too much, you need to settle down and pick something to focus on." That idea of limiting yourself makes no sense to him. Why would you not do all the things you enjoy?
In many ways I very much get his philosophy on life and think it makes a lot of sense. Too many of us are too conditioned to believe that this life style is immature or aimless and we are "not allowed" to live that way, and maybe that is a mistake. To be fair though, there are some risks to it. We talked about personal relationships and how they suffer for Jertaker because he is optimizing for experiences and achievements, rather than deep connections with people. We also talked about the potential risks of always focusing on what makes you happy and that maybe it doesn't leave enough room for self reflection and questioning. Truth be told though, who knows, maybe Jertaker and others like him have figured something out. That if you approach life with extreme optimism and every experience is something new and exciting, you set yourself up for optimal happiness. I don't know, time will tell for Jertaker, but I do know that I have a much better perspective on who he is and how he thinks, thanks to this conversation.