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The real question is harder: if AI can handle the cognitive work, what's left that actually matters?
We're joined by Jessica Powell, CEO and co-founder of AudioShake, to figure that out. We talked about why experienced practitioners get the most out of AI, what happens to the creators caught in the middle, and whether "AI-generated" is already a useless label.
We also break down how AudioShake works — not generative AI, but subtractive stem separation and why physical media and community could be music's quiet hedge against digital abundance.
CHAPTERS
04:53 Music vs. Code
07:46 Taste and Differentiation
14:27 Should We Label AI Music?
17:41 How AudioShake Works
26:23 Vibe Coding, Jobs, and Disruption
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Symphonic: Distribute your music to one of the largest networks in the industry. Symphonic delivers your music to over 200 digital service providers ensuring that you’re monetizing every stream and use of your music on Spotify, TikTok, YouTube, and more
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The real question is harder: if AI can handle the cognitive work, what's left that actually matters?
We're joined by Jessica Powell, CEO and co-founder of AudioShake, to figure that out. We talked about why experienced practitioners get the most out of AI, what happens to the creators caught in the middle, and whether "AI-generated" is already a useless label.
We also break down how AudioShake works — not generative AI, but subtractive stem separation and why physical media and community could be music's quiet hedge against digital abundance.
CHAPTERS
04:53 Music vs. Code
07:46 Taste and Differentiation
14:27 Should We Label AI Music?
17:41 How AudioShake Works
26:23 Vibe Coding, Jobs, and Disruption
SUMMIT
Get your Trapital Summit tickets here
SPONSORS
Chartmetric: Listen in for our Stat of the Week
Symphonic: Distribute your music to one of the largest networks in the industry. Symphonic delivers your music to over 200 digital service providers ensuring that you’re monetizing every stream and use of your music on Spotify, TikTok, YouTube, and more
TRAPITAL
Where technology shapes culture. New episodes and memos every week. Sign up here for free.

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