In this Episode where I (Spencer) Interview my friend Matt, we talk about some really tough news he and his wife found out when their second son was born.

Their new son was born with Down-Syndrome...

And they were not expecting it at all.

9 months of dreaming, expecting, thinking about the future...totally and drastically changed...

But this became an incredible gift in their lives.

In this episode, Spencer and Matt talk about our relationships with expectations, healthy grieving of failed desires, and giving up control in a life surrendered to God.

Is life more about absolutes or possibilities?

This is a dense conversation that you guys don't want to miss.

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