(Disclaimer: Adult language and content.)

We're back with the first catch-up episode of the week, and this one goes everywhere in the best way.

We talk about the heaviness of the world lately, how exhausting downtown parking has become, why cities make it harder than it should be for people to support local businesses, and how weird Utah weather has been.

But underneath all of that is a bigger takeaway:

When life feels loud, heavy, and disorienting… go do real things.

Go laugh at a comedy show.

Go for a 10-mile walk.

Go hike.

Go spend time with people who know you.

Go live your life.

Jess recaps a soul-filling week with longtime friends in town, including Wiseguys at the Gateway and laughing so hard she popped blood vessels in her face. Frankie talks hiking, reconnecting with a new trail friend, lessons learned the hard way on Mount Olympus, roasting coffee with Tammy, street hockey, and why the simple stuff still matters most.

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