How do you know which stage of maturity you’re experiencing right now? Also, is it possible to have different levels of maturity in different aspects of your life?

This episode reframes maturity as a trust-based process rather than a time-based achievement. Bill and Scott unpack why truth transforms only when it is trusted and why growth often happens repeatedly in different areas of life. They also highlight how safe, relational environments are essential for people to stop hiding and experience real transformation.

Topics Bill Thrall and Scott Boyd discuss in this episode:

(01:39) Why maturity follows a “trust line,” not a timeline.

(02:14) Contrasting truth-based transformation with performance-driven practices.

(04:33) Why growth can’t happen without another person involved.

(06:20) The need for safe places, especially for young believers.

(07:38) The difference between defining safety and learning how to create it.

(09:23) How modeling vulnerability creates safety in performance-driven cultures.

(12:10) Why hiding prevents maturity and reinforces false identity.

(20:35) How isolation leads to failure and why safe community interrupts that spiral.

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* Lead from identity.

* Cultivate trust that strengthens culture.

* Gain clarity that fuels lasting influence.

* Integrate who you are, and your God-given purpose, with how you lead.

This episode was brought to you by Bill Thrall, Scott Boyd, and the Living Influence team.

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