Chef Andrew Gruel has a nuanced, pragmatic view of the causes behind America's current labor market shortage and minimum wage debate. So why does MSNBC's business correspondent Stephanie Ruhle hold so much contempt for him and every other small business owner? Chef Gruel joins us to break down the recent twitter spat with Stephanie, and the economics of restaurant management in an age of rising inflation, unemployment, and oppressive government regulations.

Chef Gruel is a seafood guru, sandwich junkie, and restaurateur. He is the Founder and Executive Chef of Slapfish, which he bootstrapped from a food truck to 24 restaurant locations in less than 10 years. Follow him on Twitter at @ChefGruel.