July 30, 2026

Why Stablecoins Won’t Kill Cards Ft. a16z Partner Noah Levine

45 minutes

On Ep. 10 of Agentic Commerce, Cuy Sheffield, Head of Crypto @ Visa, and Bam Azizi, CEO & Founder @ Mesh are joined by Noah Levine, Partner @ a16z Crypto to discuss a new class of merchants and buyers emerging, stablecoins won't kill cards but fill gaps, Jevons paradox and more!

Timestamps:

00:00 Introduction

2:20 Agentic commerce is still very early in development

4:14 New class of merchants and buyers emerging

6:17 Stablecoin and blockchain for AI payment needs

7:37 Stablecoins won't kill cards but fill gaps

11:50 Card networks offer trust and brand value

13:23 Value accrues above payment protocols not in them

16:45 Wallet aggregation and headless merchants are key

21:51 Compute orchestration and real time payment opportunities

29:20 Jevons paradox and streaming payments in finance

Tokenized is sponsored by Visa
A world leader in digital payments, Visa is bridging the gap between traditional financial institutions and innovative blockchain networks, helping players in the payments ecosystem navigate the ever-evolving world of tokenized fiat currencies with confidence and ease. Learn more at visa.com/crypto.

Tokenized is also presented by Mesh
As the first global crypto payments network, Mesh makes it possible for anyone — or any agent — to pay or get paid instantly, from any wallet, on any chain, anywhere in the world. Learn more at meshpay.com

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Music by Henry McLean

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