America’s leading historian on marriage, Stephanie Coontz visits the show to talk about her latest look into how the value of marriage has changed over the years, why we’re so interested in the idea of tradwives right now, and what she thinks makes for a strong modern marriage. Plus, she expounds on her joy of wild mushroom foraging!

Before they get into it, Doree and Elise chat about the hot divorcee summer aesthetic, Doree’s birthday party, and Elise’s very LA weekend.

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