In this episode of People Soup, Ross is joined by consultant, psychoanalytic thinker, and author Gabriella Braun for a deeply human conversation about why work can feel so personal.

Drawing on her remarkable book All That We Are, Gabriella explores what really happens beneath the surface in teams, organisations, and leadership.

Together, Ross and Gabriella explore:

• Why we can’t simply “leave our emotions at home”
• How Gabriella’s experience as the child of immigrants shaped her ability to observe human systems
• The leadership experience that left her “floundering”… and sparked a lifelong curiosity about organisational life
• Why so many workplaces are carrying hidden distress
• What leaders learned about vulnerability during COVID
• Why psychoanalytic thinking has so much to offer the workplace
• The deeply personal writing journey behind All That We Are
• Why leaders may be helping their organisations choose between constructive and destructive forces every single day

And finally…

Why love may have a lot more to do with leadership than we often admit.

Originally released in 2023. Reimagined and re-edited for the new People Soup format in 2026.

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