DEAD Talks

Widowed Twice: Grief, Love, and Resilience with Norman Buckley (#25)


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What does it mean to lose two life partners in completely different ways? TV director Norman Buckley (Pretty Little Liars, Gossip Girl, The OC) opens up about his deeply personal story of love, loss, and resilience.

Norman shares how his first partner died of AIDS and, years later, how his second partner took his own life—two tragedies that forced him to navigate grief from very different angles. In this candid conversation, Norman reflects on:

  • How grief reshapes us after devastating loss
  • The difference between losing a partner to illness vs. suicide
  • Why resilience and optimism are essential in moving forward
  • The lessons he’s carried through decades of love and loss

Norman’s story is heartbreaking yet uplifting, offering wisdom, honesty, and hope for anyone touched by grief.

Follow Norman on instagram @norbuck and DEAD Talks podcast @deadtalkspodcast

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  DEAD Talks with David Ferrugio approaches death differently. Each guest shares raw stories of grief, loss, or unique perspectives that challenge the “don’t talk about death” taboo. Grief doesn’t end—it evolves. After losing his father on September 11th at just 12 years old, David discovered the power of conversation. Through laughter, tears, and honest dialogue, DEAD Talks helps make it a little easier to talk about death, mourning, trauma, and the life that continues beyond it.


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