The US has moved critical missile defenses and troops from East Asia to the Middle East. With America’s resources stretched thin, is this the ultimate strategic opportunity for China? Former UK Defence Secretary Sir Ben Wallace and Times Radio political editor Kate McCann sit down with former advisor to President Obama and Georgetown University Director of Asia Studies Evan Medeiros to explore what he calls China’s strategy of “calculated neutrality” – protecting Beijing’s economic interests while avoiding direct conflict with the United States. First, for In Brief, Sir Ben and Kate discuss the US’s thinking behind blocking the Strait of Hormuz, Lord George Robertson’s scathing critique of UK foreign policy, and whether Hungary Prime Minister Viktor Orbán’s defeat signals the beginning of the end of “strong man” populist politics. Later, Medeiros examines China’s balancing of its economic interests in both Iran and the Gulf countries, China’s Iranian oil “loophole” via the UAE, and if the Iran war is deepening fractures in Western alliances, potentially upending the global rules-based order.

In this episode:

02:05 – US blockade of the Strait of Hormuz

04:59 – Frustration amongst Gulf states

06:45 – UK Role, and Lord George Robertson’s warning to the UK

12:16 – Does Orban’s defeat signal the end of “strong man” politics?

15:39 – Evan Medeiros introduction

17:04 – Defining China’s “calculated neutrality”

18:28 – Is China above the fray of war?

19:32 – Balancing leverage with Iran and the Gulf states

24:03 – Is Beijing arming Iran?

27:45 – China’s Iranian oil loophole

28:54 – China: Displacing vs. replacing the US

32:25 – Why China avoids regional wars

36:54 – One Decision: China’s vision for a post-American world order

42:08 – Sir Ben and Kate discussion

Hosted by Sir Ben Wallace (former UK Defence Secretary) and Kate McCann (Political Editor at Times Radio).

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