Hey everyone! Today on the pod we are joined by William Matthews. William is a recording artist, a host of the popular podcast The Liturgists, and an advocate for social change fighting against racism, voter suppression, climate change, and more.

In our conversation we go deep into the good, true, and beautiful of Star Trek and I try to get William to sell me on why I should be a Trekkie, we discuss philosopher Rene Girard’s theories of mimetic desire and scapegoating, and William explains why certain voices should be excluded from the conversation not because they are conservative or liberal, left or right, but rather because they are bad-faith actors being weaponized against us. Let’s dive in.

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Produced by Andy Lara at www.andylikeswords.com