Wise Men Say

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June 17, 2025 WMS REPLAY: Meet the Managers - Denis Smith
We've delved into the archives to bring you the first in the Meet the Manager series where we speak to Denis Smith.

Denis talks us through his early years, how he came to be Sunderland manager, how he got Sunderland on the up again after relegation to the third tier for the first time in the club's history, that famous Newcastle Play-Off victory, our season in the top flight and that incredible day against Man City at Maine Road.

This podcast was first released in 2018.
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1 hr 6 min
June 16, 2025 Discussing The Impact of Peter Reid
Stephen, Gareth and Andy Dawson look back at the generational impact that Peter Reid made to the club.
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1 hr 2 min
June 02, 2025 MONDAY POD: Who can make the step up to the Premier League?
Stephen Goldsmith, Gareth Barker and Richard Easterbrook talk about the positions Sunderland will need to strengthen as they look forward to their return to the Premier League!
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1 hr 2 min
May 27, 2025 Monday (Tuesday) Show: Actual Match Stuff W/Frankie Francis
Stephen and Gareth bring you the Monday Pod on a Tuesday. Lots of Wembley hysteria is still ongoing but here's some actual crack about the match. WMS alumni Frankie Francis returns.
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50 min
May 25, 2025 The WMS Wembley Diaries
The Wise Men Say team recorded their thoughts across a memorable weekend for Sunderland AFC, from setting off to London, heading to Trafalgar Square, pre-match feelings from the supporters we bumped into - and all of the celebrations across the capital afterwards.

Almost every current WMS member - plus some familiar faces - contributed to this in some way - probably the first time we've all been on a podcast together at the same time!
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51 min
May 25, 2025 REACTION: Sheffield United 1-2 Sunderland - Play-Off Final
WE ARE PREMIER LEAGUE!!!
Eleanor McCabe presents from WMS' spiritual home in the capital, the Marquis Cornwallis, as Sunderland secured their return to the top flight after an eight-year absence with a barely-believable last-minute victory against Sheffield United at Wembley Stadium.
Eleanor is joined by Richard Easterbrook, Jonny Lambert and lots of others as we celebrate a momentous occasion.
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15 min
May 22, 2025 PREVIEW: Wembley Preview Part Two
Richard Easterbrook is joined by Eleanor McCabe, Jimmy Reay and special guest Matthew Keeling as excitement continues to build for Sunderland's Championship play-off final at Wembley Stadium. Tonight, the team talk about Regis Le Bris' selection decisions and what threat Sheffield United pose on Saturday.
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1 hr 3 min
May 19, 2025 MONDAY SHOW: Wembley Preview Part One
Stephen and Gareth are joined by Andy Dawson to bring you the first of two pods where the WMS gang talk about Saturday. Oh and Rick pops his head in too.
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52 min
May 15, 2025 Post-Coventry Chat w/Rory Fallow
Stephen Goldsmith is joined by Richard Easterbrook and special guest, Sunderland AFC match announcer - and former Wise Men Say presenter - Rory Fallow.

The lads look back on the Coventry match in a little bit more detail while Rory answers your listener questions.
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46 min
May 13, 2025 REACTION: Sunderland 1-1 Coventry (AET, 3-2 on aggregate)
Eleanor and Mick bring you their reaction on one of the greatest nights the Stadium of Light has ever seen as Sunderland score in the last minute of extra-time to seal an aggregate victory over Coventry City - and with it their passage to the Championship play-off final at Wembley Stadium!
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13 min

About Wise Men Say

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The longest-running Sunderland AFC podcast, established in 2013. Up to three shows a week including previews, reaction shows, live shows and feature-length episodes with quality articles live on