I guess we've started as we finished. All of the hope evaporated after a dismal 25 minutes at Leicester City. We discuss the defeat with The Evening Chronicle's James Hunter.

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We're back to take a look over Sunderland's pre season so far. We talk new signings and hope and expectations for the coming year. Michael Proctor joins us.

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I think we're all glad that's over. Our defeat at Chelsea didn't seem to matter, but there are still big question marks over the future of the manager. Will Dick stay or go? We'll take a look back over the season, and look forwards too, with BBC Radio Newcastle commentator Nick Barnes and ALS Fanzine editor-in-chief Martyn McFadden.

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After last week's brief effort, on this week's Wise Men Say we'll fight technology until something good happens. We've got a duet of local journos in the studio. The Sunderland Echo's Chris Young and The Evening Chronicle's James Hunter offer up some insight after our 0-0 draw with Leicester City. Will it be enough?We also preview the trip to Arsenal on Wednesday night, where a point will be enough to see Sunderland safe.

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After last week failing to materialise (circumstances beyond our control) we were gutted we couldn't talk about a win. Then we had more tech problems this evening. Doh! We didn't bank on Sunderland gannin pure radge and winning AGAIN. We'll talk about the Everton victory, a Danny Graham wonder strike and more.We're joined in the studio by A Love Supreme fanzine editor, Chris Thompson. We've also got Times journalist George Caulkin in and around in order to offer up some top, top analysis. JOIN US.

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Stephen Goldsmith is joined by Michael Proctor and Gary Foster to talk about the Sunderland draw at Stoke City.

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Why? Just, why? Smashed again at home, leaving us with more questions than answers. All the confidence and momentum from the derby victory gone, and we've got two weeks to stew and worry about it all. We're joined by SAFC writer Tom Lynn and the Sunderland Echo's Chris Young.

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Episode 27 of the Wise Men Say podcast, in association with A Love Supreme, is now live!Five in a row, Jermain Defoe and absolute bliss. We're joined in the studio by WMS regular Craig Clark and ALS stalwart Paul 'Sobs' Dobson.

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Episode 26 of the Wise Men Say podcast, in association with A Love Supreme, is now live!Not even a dose of Dick could improve Sunderland's fortunes on Saturday. Another defeat, another rubbish decision. ALS editor in chief Martyn McFadden and Hyde and Beast's Neil Bassett join us in the studio to discuss the West Ham game.

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Episode 25 of the Wise Men Say podcast, in association with A Love Supreme, is now live!What a disaster. We pick the bones out of the prolapse that was the Aston Villa defeat with Craig Clark and Freelancer Gary Foster. Is this the beginning of the end?

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