Wise Men Say

Well, Friday happened and it wasn't all that bad. A decent performance, a well earned point and plenty of effort from the lads in red and white. There's plenty to discuss in the studio, with WMS regulars Craig Clark and Gary Foster joining Gareth, as well as Chris Thompson from A Love Supreme.

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A new season, but maybe not the optimism that should not all come with it.Sunderland begin their first Championship season in a decade at home to Derby County on the back of that awful game against Celtic. We get the lowdown on Simon Grayson from Simon Crabtree and hear from Derby County podcaster Chris Parsons. We also hear from the gaffer himself.No Stephen this week, so Gareth is joined by WMS contributor Craig Clark and The Sunderland Echo's Phil Smith.

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Hello Wise Men Say and Into The Light listeners,We’re delighted to say that every Thursday, we’ll be producing ‘Wise Men Say – The Preview Show with Sun FM’, replacing Into The Light.Every week we’ll be bringing you the usual in depth discussion and analysis surrounding Sunderland AFC, great guests from the world of journalism, ex players and of course, you, the fans.You’ll also get your post match review show every Monday evening, so that’s two shows a week.If you’re a regular subscriber to the Wise Men Say podcast then you don’t have to do anything.However, if you’re an Into The Light subscriber only, you need to subscribe to the Wise Men Say feed. You can subscribe on iTunes, listen or stream on Acast or use the RSS Feed to subscribe and listen. Alternatively you can stream it from the Sun FM website.We can’t wait to get started again and we hope you’ll be tuning in when the season starts in August.Thanks for listening!ACAST: https://www.acast.com/wisemensayITUNES: https://itunes.apple.com/gb/podcast/wise-men-say/id1053066214?mt=2 RSS FEED: http://rss.acast.com/wisemensay

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Join us at The Southwark Brewery for another WMS live show on Saturday September 2nd! We’ll be joined by former Sunderland goalkeeper and journalist David Preece. Doors are at 7pm and tickets are available at wisemensay.co.uk for £10 (plus £1 booking fee). There’ll be plenty to discuss and it should be another great night. It was incredibly popular last time we did a show at the Brewery and it sold out in a couple of weeks, so I’d suggest you move fast! We look forward to seeing you there!

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Just when we thought we were out, Moyes pulls us back in. In an all WMS team affair, we discuss where we go after the resignation of David Moyes.

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In a season of abject displays, Saturday's pathetic showing against Swansea probably topped the lot. In a final studio show of the season, we're joined by Gavin Henderson of Roker Report, Sobs of A Love Supreme and The Evening Chronicle's James Hunter. Hopefully it'll be a more worthwhile use of time than the 90 minutes we all endured on Saturday.

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Stephen, Gareth and Rory are joined by former Wearside Roar editor, amongst other things, Tom Lynn. We pick the bones out of a bizarre Sunderland performance in which we played quite well and did two of those goal things that other people keep banging on about. Too little too late? Hope for next season? Or just plain meh?

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Stephen, Gareth, Rory and Michael Lough get together for the first relegation party of the next few weeks. Strap yourself in for some hot, hot depression.

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It was all too little, too late. A canny performance, but it probably dug up more questions than answers for David Moyes. Stephen is back and joins Gareth, Rory and Michael Lough in an all WMS affair.

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We're getting to the stage where the undertaker is going to have to replace the coffin, such is the residual damage from the constant hammering of nails in the aforementioned casket of relegationy goodness. Sunderland seemed to be there in body and not in spirit as they limped to a 0-3 home reverse to Manchester United. Is there anything good about us at the moment? We're all scratching our heads. No Stephen this week, so Gareth is joined by WMS contributors Rory Fallow and Richard Easterbrook as well as local celeb and all round top bloke, Frankie Francis.

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