WORK IN PROGRESS

WORK IN PROGRESS

By Wes Botman, Ian PiepenbrockBusinessEntrepreneurship
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WORK IN PROGRESS episodes

  • The Jaguar train-wreck, AI video dubbing use-cases and frontloading energy & pain - Episode #4

    In this episode of WORK IN PROGRESS, we explore the grind of building businesses with some practical insights and unfiltered takes. From why front-loading energy and pain is essential for success, to the controversial (if not disastrous) Jaguar rebrand, we cover the highs, lows, and lessons learned. We also dive into the game-changing potential of AI-powered video localization and how it could reshape content distribution. Plus, we share thoughts on the startup grind, ads vs. organic growth, and more.

    Intro & Branding Blunders

    00:00 Ian’s boxing mishap and the Jaguar rebranding controversy

    05:30 Classic cars vs. Jaguar’s modern misstep: The backlash and cultural tone-deafness
    10:00 Porsche’s successful nostalgic campaign vs. Jaguar’s failure
    AI Localization & Video Content

    14:00 YouTube’s AI localization: What it means for creators and brands

    20:00 Global opportunities for multilingual content: Use cases in B2B SaaS
    24:00 Opening new talent pools with seamless video and language tools
    The Concept of Front-Loading Energy

    29:00 Front-loaded energy: Building momentum in daily life and business

    35:00 Avoiding long-term inefficiencies by proactive preparation
    40:00 Sprinting vs. consistent effort: How Ian and Wes handle momentum at NOCO
    Ads vs. Organic Growth

    49:00 Balancing ads and organic growth in scaling businesses

    55:00 Why organic proves value and ads amplify success
    Closing Reflections

    01:02:00 Podcasting as a learning tool and refining ideas through conversations

    The WORK IN PROGRESS podcast hosted by Ian Piepenbrock and Wes Botman, two founders who are scaling and refining their businesses every day.
    Wes Botman is founder and CEO at ⁠⁠Eli5⁠⁠ (https://eli5.io), a software studio making complex ideas simple and accessible.
    Ian Piepenbrock is CEO at ⁠⁠Noco⁠⁠ (https://noco.agency), an agency dedicated to helping B2B SaaS and tech companies grow through strategic web design and branding.
    Follow us on X for more raw insights, thoughts, and a good dose of founder reality:
    Wes: ⁠⁠@wesbotman⁠⁠ (https://x.com/wesbotman)
    Ian: ⁠⁠@lamswolprins (https://x.com/lamswolprins)

    1 hr 3 min
  • Paul vs Tyson, Y Combinator wisdom and how to fix the EU tech sector - Episode #3

    In this episode of the WORK IN PROGRESS podcast, we dive into the grit and grind of building businesses, with topics ranging from startup lessons and iterative growth to the inefficiencies of corporate bureaucracy. We also tackle the stark contrasts between the US and EU entrepreneurial climates, highlight Pieter Levels’ critiques of European policies, and debate Elon Musk’s push for governmental efficiency. Plus, some lighthearted takes on Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson and nostalgic TV shows to keep things fresh.

    Timestamps:
    Intro & Catch-Up
    00:00 - Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson: Ian’s take on the fight, Netflix streaming issues, and Tyson nostalgia.
    05:00 - Nostalgic TV Shows: Discussing Lost, Breaking Bad, and other iconic series.

    Key Topics
    10:30 - Y Combinator Pocket Guide: Startup lessons like “Launch Now” and “Do Things That Don’t Scale” with reflections on the “Decel Mindset.”
    19:00 - Iteration vs. Inefficiency: Piloting new services and learning through non-scalable processes.
    24:00 - Broken Startups: Embracing chaos as a natural part of growth.

    Corporate Challenges
    27:30 - Avoid Long Corporate Deals: How bureaucracy kills energy compared to working with leaner, smaller clients.
    32:00 - Skip Unnecessary Conferences: Inefficiencies of traditional networking versus better alternatives.
    34:00 - One Problem at a Time: Lessons in focus and managing multiple challenges effectively.

    Europe vs. US Entrepreneurship
    38:00 - EU’s Bureaucratic Struggles: Comparing innovation climates in Europe vs. the US, focusing on regulation and taxes.
    49:00 - DOGE (Department of Government Efficiency): Elon Musk’s push to address government waste, with parallels to EU inefficiencies.
    55:00 - Pieter Levels’ Critiques: Examining EU policies on taxes, labor laws, and potential solutions like streamlined EU business frameworks.

    If you’re a founder, creator, or just someone obsessed with learning, this is for you. Hit subscribe for raw, unfiltered conversations about the real journey of entrepreneurship.

    1 hr 3 min
  • Difficult customers, bursts of intensity, free speech and the EU tech-sector is COOKED - Episode #2

    Welcome to the second episode of WIP The Podcast – straight out of Amsterdam, where we dive deep into the realities of scaling, struggling, and sometimes stumbling as founders. We’re not here to sell you the polished “guru” story; we’re in the trenches ourselves, sharing the raw, unvarnished truth of building something real.

    In this episode, we tackle:

    • Difficult Customers – why every “difficult” customer is a reflection of the clarity and structure we bring (or fail to bring) to the table.
    • Bursts of Intensity vs. Consistency – the power of pushing to the edge, sprinting hard, and why it’s essential for true growth.
    • Free Speech and Freedom Tech – how the erosion of digital freedoms is impacting everyone, and why we care.
    • EU Tech-Sector Realities – why Europe’s tech scene is struggling and what that means for founders here.
    • If you’re grinding, building, and constantly learning, this is for you. Hit subscribe and join us for the unfiltered journey. We’re just getting started.

      WIP The Podcast is hosted by Ian Piepenbrock and Wes Botman, two founders who are scaling and refining their businesses every day.

      • Wes Botman is founder and CEO at ⁠⁠Eli5⁠⁠, a software studio making complex ideas simple and accessible.
      • Ian Piepenbrock is CEO at ⁠⁠Noco⁠⁠, an agency dedicated to helping B2B SaaS and tech companies grow through strategic web design and branding.
      • Follow us on X for more raw insights, thoughts, and a good dose of founder reality:

        • Wes: ⁠⁠@wesbotman⁠⁠
        • Ian: ⁠⁠@lamswolprins
        • 57 min
        • Decel mindset, relentless iteration and esoteric health tips - Episode #1

          Welcome to the first episode of WIP The Podcast – straight out of Amsterdam, where we get real about the grit and grind of building a business. We’re not your average gurus with a success story wrapped in a bow. We’re founders in the trenches, sharing what it actually takes to scale, learn, fail, and iterate.

          In this episode, we dig into:
          The Decel Mindset – why there’s zero room for it if you’re serious about growing
          Throughput and Volume – why bootstrapping an agency without high project flow is a one-way ticket to irrelevance
          Constant Iteration – the obsession to test, tweak, and bring value to clients
          Community and Culture – the real, unpolished truth of keeping a team motivated and thriving

          Plus, a bit of esoteric wellness (Epsom salt and baking soda baths) for good measure

          This is for anyone who’s building, grinding, and constantly learning. Hit subscribe if you’re here for the unfiltered, raw journey. We’re just getting started.

          About Us
          WIP The Podcast is hosted by Ian Piepenbrock and Wes Botman, founders who are deep in the process of scaling and refining their businesses every day.
          Wes Botman is founder and CEO at Eli5, a software studio dedicated to making complex ideas accessible and clear.
          Ian Piepenbrock is CEO at Noco, an agency that helps B2B SaaS and tech companies grow and scale with strategic web design and branding.
          Follow us on X for more raw insights, thoughts and memes:
          Wes: @wesbotman
          Ian: @lamswolprins

          52 min

        About WORK IN PROGRESS

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        WORK IN PROGRESS is a raw, unfiltered look at the grind of building and scaling in tech and services. Hosted by founders Ian Piepenbrock and Wes Botman, it’s for those in the trenches—still learning, still failing, still pushing.