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In this episode Jesse talked with Val Charlton of Kishugu, a private organization that runs and manages Working on Fire. Working on Fire is a South African government program that recruits disadvantaged South Africans and, after extensive training, hires them as wildland firefighters. Val discusses the fire regime in South Africa, how WoF is addressing the local issue and how its is translating to the globe.