We’re celebrating this week as we welcome comedians Mano Agapion and Oscar Montoya to Good Get! The hosts of the internet’s ONLY drag race podcast join Mo to discuss their on-air rapport, the liberatory power of drag alter egos, and the importance of finding someone who shares your type of freak.

Make sure you’re following Mano and Oscar over on the Drag Her! feed, and check out their new Patreon at patreon.com/dragherpodcast. The show’s on Instagram @dragherpodcast, Mano’s @manoagapion, and Oscar’s @ozzymo.

Here *from* the Drag Her! feed? We’d love for you to stick around: every week Mo chats with a different comedian or performer about their creative process—we’ve got two seasons’ worth of episodes to enjoy.

Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted and produced by Mo Fry Pasic. Our executive producers are Erica Getto, Myrriah Gossett, and Lauren Mandel.

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All it takes is one spark of inspiration to set a creative process in motion. And this week, to celebrate our one-year anniversary, a single question is all that we have to guide us. Listen in as Mo draws on techniques they find useful in their own creative process to answer it, including the spiritual practice of tarot.

If you've enjoyed even one episode of Worse Than You this year, we want to hear from you! Leave us a rating and review on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you like to listen. Not sure what to say? Tell us what tools you rely on in your creative practice!

Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted and produced by Mo Fry Pasic. Our executive producers are Erica Getto, Myrriah Gossett, and Lauren Mandel.

We're on Instagram and TikTok @worsethanyoushow, and you can follow Good Get on YouTube for exclusive video content.

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Murder mysteries. Card games. Late night comedies. This week, we're exploring Jo Firestone's creative playground! She joins Mo to discuss why she loves starting new projects just as much as finishing them, how she avoids getting bitter, and the ritual of watching Love Island.

Her new novel Murder on Sex Island is out now! Make sure to pick up a copy, and if you've listened to the episode, you know what to do...

Jo's not on social media these days, but you can head to jofirestone.com to keep up with her latest projects. While you're at it, why not check out her Peacock special Good Timing!

Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted and produced by Mo Fry Pasic. Our executive producers are Erica Getto, Myrriah Gossett, and Lauren Mandel.
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Director Anu Valia has a knack for staying present, whether she's on set for a hit comedy series or in post-production on one of her films. This week, she joins Mo to discuss finding the feeling in every scene, trusting outside voices, and looking to other art forms for inspiration.

Anu's on Instagram @anuvalia. Her feature film We Strangers is in theaters this August, and you can see her recent work on shows like Adults, And Just Like That..., and Shrinking!

Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted and produced by Mo Fry Pasic. Our executive producers are Erica Getto, Myrriah Gossett, and Lauren Mandel.

We're on Instagram and TikTok @worsethanyoushow, and you can follow Good Get on YouTube for exclusive video content.

Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is a Good Get and Disco Nap Co-Production.

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What happens when your creative outlet becomes a career? It’s a question that comedian Devon Walker has navigated ever since being cast on SNL. He joins Mo this week to discuss his journey to 30 Rock, how he’s let go of audience expectations, and why he’d rather hear about your job than talk about his.

Devon’s on Instagram @internetdevon. You can hear him every week on his podcast My Favorite Lyrics, from Disco Nap Productions. And make sure to check out his tour dates!

Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted and produced by Mo Fry Pasic. Our executive producers are Erica Getto, Myrriah Gossett, and Lauren Mandel.
We're on Instagram and TikTok @worsethanyoushow, and you can follow Good Get on YouTube for exclusive video content.

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Josh Sharp has just begun rehearsals for his Off-Broadway debut. It’s billed as a solo show, but technically, Josh has a scene partner: a 2,000-slide PowerPoint presentation. He joins Mo this week to discuss what it's been like to find synchronicity with a slideshow, how theater feels different from any film or TV set he’s worked on, and why he's reveling in duality.

Josh is on Instagram @cluckcluckjoshsharp. And Josh Sharp: ta-da! is on Instagram @joshsharptada! The show will open Off-Broadway this summer at the Greenwich House Theatre, directed by Oh, Mary’s Sam Pinkleton. Performances begin July 7. Tickets are on sale now at joshsharptada.com.

Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted and produced by Mo Fry Pasic. Our executive producers are Erica Getto, Myrriah Gossett, and Lauren Mandel.

We're on Instagram and TikTok @worsethanyoushow, and you can follow Good Get on YouTube for exclusive video content.

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Joel Kim Booster knows the power of pining: if there’s even a chance that a script he loves can be produced, he’ll work tirelessly on it. But you won't find him waiting around for a yes—for every project he has in development, he's already drafting another.

This week, he joins Mo to discuss how he reverse-engineered self-confidence on stage, what it's been like to move his career goal posts, and the Fire Island summer that changed his life.

Joel's on Instagram @ihatejoelkim.

Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted and produced by Mo Fry Pasic. Our executive producers are Erica Getto, Myrriah Gossett, and Lauren Mandel.
We're on Instagram and TikTok @worsethanyoushow, and you can follow Good Get on YouTube for exclusive video content.

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Vico Ortiz sees their career as a relationship. And they're putting in the work to keep it from becoming toxic. That means pursuing projects that feel aligned with their values, invite them to hone new skills, and fulfill their spirit—like their new solo show Rise of a King.

This week, they join Mo to discuss their experience writing both English and Spanish versions of the show; what they've learned from puppetry, drag, clowning, and burlesque; and where they find ease in their work.

Vico's on Instagram and TikTok @puertoricaninja, and on Bluesky. Make sure to subscribe to their new Substack Thirsty Silly Goosin' with Vico Ortiz and their podcast Today In Gay. And if you're in LA this month, get tickets to Rise of a King at Hollywood Fringe!

Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted and produced by Mo Fry Pasic. Our executive producers are Erica Getto, Myrriah Gossett, and Lauren Mandel.

We're on Instagram and TikTok @worsethanyoushow, and you can follow Good Get on YouTube for exclusive video content.

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Sometimes the most meaningful art exists in the interstices, where a blank canvas becomes a space that's separate from work or family or the churn of everyday life. And this week, we're celebrating this type of art with a very special guest: Mo's sibling Anna Pasic. Listen in as Mo and Anna discuss removing urgency from their art, what mutual aid has to do with creativity, and why it's worth getting back in the saddle.

Follow Anna on Instagram @ancatpas.

Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted and produced by Mo Fry Pasic. Our executive producers are Erica Getto, Myrriah Gossett, and Lauren Mandel.

We're on Instagram and TikTok @worsethanyoushow, and you can follow Good Get on YouTube for exclusive video content.

Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is a Good Get and Disco Nap Co-Production.

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Ronald Young Jr. is building his career in audio the same way that he'd like to build a house: with care, intentionality, and a strong foundation. And with each project that he releases, he wants listeners to hear that he's making progress. This week, he joins Mo to discuss how he approaches his critically acclaimed podcasts like Weight For It, the importance of having friends who know you off mic, and the risks of replacing emotional nuance with drama.

Ronald's on Instagram @ohitsbigron and ohitsbigron.com. Make sure to check out his podcasts Weight For It and Leaving the Theater!

Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is hosted and produced by Mo Fry Pasic. Our executive producers are Erica Getto, Myrriah Gossett, and Lauren Mandel.

We're on Instagram and TikTok @worsethanyoushow, and you can follow Good Get on YouTube for exclusive video content.

Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic is a Good Get and Disco Nap Co-Production.

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