Russia’s hack of software management system SolarWinds has caused many in Washington to sound the alarm. How were Russian operatives able to evade detection, and what does their intrusion mean for the future of American national security?

The New York Times’ David Sanger joined Dany and Marc to discuss the SolarWinds hack, the state of American cybersecurity, and what the future may hold. They also talk about how technological developments in cyber continue to change the nature of warfare.

David Sanger is a national security correspondent and a senior writer at the New York Times. He has been on three teams that have won Pulitzer Prizes, most recently in 2017 for international reporting. His newest book, “The Perfect Weapon: War, Sabotage and Fear in the Cyber Age,’’ examines the emergence of cyberconflict.

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