On October 6th, we sat down for a lovely conversation with journalist  Mary Katharine Ham, who you may know from CNN, The Federalist, and as the co-host of wonderful podcast "Getting Hammered". 

I'd like to say that back 3 weeks ago when we recorded this we didn't have any problems, but we did, just at a much smaller scale. We discuss a lot of the things that were on our minds then and now like Israel, journalism, and American campus madness in this timeless episode. In her southern generosity, Mary Katharine agreed to come back a few days ago, so we also recorded a more timely intro for y'all where we discuss the last couple of weeks. 

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