In this episode, Zachary Kramer, Associate Dean of Faculty and Professor of Law at the Sandra Day O'Connor College of Law at Arizona State University, discusses his new book "Outsiders: Why Difference is the Future of Civil Rights," which is published by Oxford University Press. Kramer begins by explaining the traditional structure of statutory civil rights law and how it conceptualizes discrimination. He explains how the traditional structure struggles to recognize and rectify forms of discrimination that have an individualized component. And he argues that civil rights law should be more attentive to individual difference, not just group membership. In Kramer's view, civil rights laws can encourage communication and help people reach mutually beneficial outcomes. Kramer is on Twitter at @zachary_kramer.

This episode was hosted by Brian L. Frye, Spears-Gilbert Associate Professor of Law at the University of Kentucky College of Law.

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