In a world where many of us are chasing power, money, and influence that can ultimately harm us, this week’s guest is passionate about doing the personal work he believes is necessary not to just avoid pitfalls, but live an authentic, fulfilled life.   

Join us for an honest and impactful conversation with Steve Carter, pastor, speaker, podcast host, author of the new book: The Thing Beneath The Thing. In this interview, Steve gets vulnerable about his own journey chasing accolades and the importance of doing our own work, naming and examining our trauma, and leading with character when it means the most.   

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