Dr. Gregory Tucker was a Clinical Psychologist who woke up when he read Wei Wu Wei's "Open Secret," one of eight books Terence Gray wrote between 1958 and 1974. The shift from the lie, right now is real, to the truth, right now is only a Mind generated dream, made him confront the fact "Psychotherapy" is not a people-based event, but only a dreamer-based event, in which the dream features all the problems the dreamer in the dream deals with in the process of defending the fiction it is 'the person' it portrays in the dream. Waking up occurs exactly as fast as the dreamer in the dream surrenders to the fact it can only be a dreamer in this dream, somewhere with that fact, and probably filling time defending the lie it is some kind of a person, and more likely than not, a less than okay person. Seeing 'the truth' prompted Greg to stop working with 'people' to work with the suffering dreamers endure defending the fiction they are people. He calls what he does, "The Recovery Process," which assists dreamers to identify that suffering is a function of defending a lie as if it is a fact. He has never looked back since that 'fateful' day in the dream.

Interview recorded November 11, 2010.

YouTube Video Chapters:

00:00:00 - Introduction and Background

00:04:42 - The Nature of Enlightenment and the Evolution of Consciousness

00:10:22 - The Inevitable Growth of Consciousness

00:15:56 - The Perspective of Christ on Suffering

00:20:17 - The Intrigue of the Shift

00:23:58 - The Search for Truth and Reconnecting with Alignment

00:27:39 - The Truth Behind Impersonation and Amnesia

00:30:55 - The Paradox of Working with Invented Selves

00:34:34 - The Dilemma of Working with Clients

00:37:44 - Letting go of the lie of being a person in a dream

00:40:35 - The Dreaming Mind and the Illusion of Being a Person

00:43:52 - The Language of the Dream Mind

00:47:26 - Levels of Delusion and Enlightenment

00:50:50 - The Dreamer and the Dream

00:53:53 - The Illusion of Being a Person

00:57:26 - Using Suffering as Proof of Personhood

01:00:46 - The Relative Nature of Things

01:04:36 - The Levels of Reality

01:07:28 - The Nature of Mind and Consciousness

01:10:55 - Dissolving the Self

01:14:37 - Perspectives in Buddhism and Hinduism

01:18:27 - The Importance of Awakening and Enlightenment

01:22:11 - The Essence of Humor and Waking Up to the Dream

01:25:40 - Seeing Others as Dreamers

01:29:29 - Awakening Beyond the Dream

01:33:46 - Getting Out of Suffering and Articulating the Experience

01:37:40 - Playing the Part of a Loser

01:41:16 - The Fear of Truth in the Prison of Illusion

01:45:11 - Exploring Different Languages of Perception

01:48:36 - Hedging Bets and the End of Time

01:52:11 - Wrapping Up: Next Guest Announcement