Saniel Bonder is the author of Healing the Spirit/Matter Split and the founder of the Waking Down in Mutuality work. He has been a pioneer in the widespread embodiment and mutual, evolutionary exploration of awakened consciousness for over a decade.

Linda Groves-Bonder is Saniel’s full partner in their transmission and teachings and a Senior Teacher of Waking Down in Mutuality. Together they are now co-authoring a forthcoming book, The Human Sun, and founding Human Sun University.

Saniel and Linda's sites:

sanielandlinda.com

TheHumanSunSeries.com

heartgazing.com

Summary and transcript of this interview

Recorded 4/17/2011.

Part 2 of this interview, recorded a week later.

YouTube Video Chapters:

00:00:00 - Introduction of Saniel and Linda Groves Bonder

00:03:17 - A Quest for Spiritual Connection

00:07:17 - A Shift in Perspective

00:10:37 - The Door to a Whole Other World

00:14:08 - Discovering the Teachings of a Spiritual Teacher

00:18:20 - Awakening and the Awakening Process

00:22:26 - The Flamethrowers and the Opening They Created

00:26:48 - The Balance Between Self-Realization and Encountering Others

00:31:05 - The Awakening Process

00:35:15 - Integration and Awakening

00:38:35 - The Importance of Independent Thinking and Freedom from Dogma

00:42:29 - Questioning Catholic Beliefs

00:46:12 - Questioning the Catholic Faith

00:49:39 - A Journey of Exploration and Seeking

00:53:49 - Connectedness with Nature and Creatures

00:57:39 - Discovering Samuel Bonder

01:01:43 - Finding My Ground and Strength in Being

01:06:28 - Linda's Awakening Experience

01:10:16 - Awakening and the Pain of the World

01:13:41 - The Subtle Washing Machine Effect

01:17:34 - Awakening and Individual Capabilities

01:21:34 - The Post-awakening Process and the Challenges

01:25:36 - A New Developmental Model

01:30:15 - The Shift towards Differentiated Self-Awareness and Dissociation

01:34:48 - The Simultaneity of Consciousness and Matter Realizing Itself

01:38:35 - The Neo-Advaita Perspective

01:42:48 - The Emergence of a New Understanding

01:46:45 - The Agreement on Waking Down into Life

01:50:20 - The Importance of Guidance and Transmission in Awakening

01:54:56 - Awakened Leadership and Human Sun University

01:59:11 - Buddha at the Gas Pump