Saniel Bonder is the author of Healing the Spirit/Matter Split and the founder of the Waking Down in Mutuality work. He has been a pioneer in the widespread embodiment and mutual, evolutionary exploration of awakened consciousness for over a decade.

Linda Groves-Bonder is Saniel’s full partner in their transmission and teachings and a Senior Teacher of Waking Down in Mutuality. Together they are now co-authoring a forthcoming book, The Human Sun, and founding Human Sun University.

Saniel and Linda's sites:

sanielandlinda.com

TheHumanSunSeries.com

heartgazing.com

Summary and transcript of this interview

Recorded 4/23/2011.

Part 1 of this interview, recorded a week earlier.

YouTube Video Chapters:

00:00:00 - Discussion on the Continuation of Ego After Enlightenment

00:04:17 - The Awakening Process and the Extinction of Ego

00:08:20 - Transmission and Integration after Realization

00:12:03 - The Spirit-Matter Split

00:15:54 - Evolution of Ancient Traditions

00:19:21 - Holding Open the Possibility

00:22:55 - The Definition of Ego

00:27:02 - Ramana Maharshi and the Dissolution of the Ego

00:30:01 - Honoring the Soul of Loving Kindness and Forgiveness

00:32:07 - Mithya: The Concept of Dependent Reality

00:34:51 - The Mystery of Life's Paradoxes

00:37:56 - The Juiciness of Being Human

00:40:50 - Flexibility and Malleability

00:43:51 - Cultivating Awareness and Accessing the Transcendent Ground

00:46:45 - Fulfillment of the Drive

00:49:59 - The Intensification of Subjective Awareness

00:52:42 - A White Hot Moment

00:55:03 - White-Hot Fusion and Simultaneous Hugeness and Tininess

00:57:59 - Stages of Awakening

01:01:15 - The Second Birth Interview Process

01:05:18 - Ground Awareness: Continuous and Impersonal

01:09:09 - The Transition to Second Birth

01:11:58 - The Importance of Confirmation and Support during Spiritual Transformation

01:15:34 - The Maturing Process of Enlightenment

01:19:54 - The Core Wound and Consciousness

01:24:31 - The Vision for a University

01:28:38 - The Purpose of the University and Empowering Individuals

01:32:06 - How to Get in Touch for a Chat

01:35:09 - Embracing Different Spiritual Paths

01:38:29 - Gratitude and Empowerment

01:41:28 - Support the Project