Why do men like to fight and why do we like to watch? These are questions I've asked myself before and ones that we attempt to answer with my guest today Jonathan Gottschall, an English professor with some real-world experience in MMA.

Today we talk about the nature of fighting, how fighting has evolved, the role honor plays in combat, and where the desire to make men more civilized comes from.

JONATHAN GOTTSCHALL

Jonathan Gottshcall is a Distinguished Fellow in the English Department at Washington & Jefferson College.

His research at the intersection of science and art has been covered in outlets like The New York Times, Scientific American, The New Yorker, The Atlantic, The Chronicle of Higher Education, Nature, and NPR.

Jonathan is also the author of seven books, including The Storytelling Animal, which was a New York Times Editor's Choice Selection and a finalist for the LA Times Book Prize.

When he was 39, a cage fighting gym opened across from the English Department. He asked myself, "What would Hemingway do?" The answer is in his latest book, The Professor in the Cage: Why Men Fight and Why We Like to Watch.

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