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For many of us, it’s easy to believe we have all the answers and that we have it all together. Behind this barrier we seemingly feel safe. We convince ourselves that we’re aware and in control of our feelings. Logic is often times used to confirm this reality. However, our natural reactions point to a different story.
In this episode, Justin and Abi are joined by their dear friend Andrew Liem. Andrew shares about the barrier of his logical reality that kept him dissociated from the truth of his experience. He speaks candidly about his mother’s battle with cancer as a youth and how it shaped his approach to life and affected his capacity to receive love.
Now, years later, Andrew stands together with his family as his mother faces the threat of cancer once again. Without the barriers that once protected him from feeling, Andrew is faced with the reality of grief while connecting to the love necessary to get through it all.
You don’t want to miss this pivotal, life-changing message!
By Justin and Abi Stumvoll4.9
25932,593 ratings
For many of us, it’s easy to believe we have all the answers and that we have it all together. Behind this barrier we seemingly feel safe. We convince ourselves that we’re aware and in control of our feelings. Logic is often times used to confirm this reality. However, our natural reactions point to a different story.
In this episode, Justin and Abi are joined by their dear friend Andrew Liem. Andrew shares about the barrier of his logical reality that kept him dissociated from the truth of his experience. He speaks candidly about his mother’s battle with cancer as a youth and how it shaped his approach to life and affected his capacity to receive love.
Now, years later, Andrew stands together with his family as his mother faces the threat of cancer once again. Without the barriers that once protected him from feeling, Andrew is faced with the reality of grief while connecting to the love necessary to get through it all.
You don’t want to miss this pivotal, life-changing message!

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