Lisa started spiritually seeking in her early 20’s. She had her first awakening in 2005 after attending a talk given by Tony Parsons. After this, she spent some time in India with Ramesh Balsekar. It was there that she met her final teacher, Roger Castillo, who was also a student of Ramesh. She lived with him for three years in Australia during which time many falsehoods were seen through. In the beginning of 2011, Lisa’s awakening stabilized and the seeker fell away. Lisa now enjoys communicating the nature of Happiness to anyone desperate enough to know the truth. Website: lisacairns.com Summary and Transcript of this interview. Interview recorded 1/7/2012 Lisa in BatGap discussion with Tim Freke YouTube Video Chapters: 00:00:00 - A De-scription, Not a Pre-scription 00:03:49 - The Illusion of Cause and Effect  00:07:20 - Living without Concepts and Belief Systems 00:10:50 - Animal Cruelty and Personal Concern 00:13:35 - The Funny Story of How I Met My Boyfriend Roger 00:16:28 - From Buddhism to Tony Parsons 00:19:40 - The Illusion of Cause and Effect 00:23:11 - The Need to Hold onto Blame, Good and Bad Perspectives 00:26:52 - Indifference towards the opinions of others 00:30:43 - Life Showing What Needs to Be Happening 00:33:37 - Enlightenment and Spiritual Practice 00:37:09 - The Illusion of Happiness and Beliefs 00:40:59 - The End of the Urge to Do 00:44:51 - The Falling Away of Beliefs and Ideas 00:48:20 - The Dog's Thoughts 00:52:05 - The Spotlight on Experiences  00:55:24 - The Marvelous Creation of God 00:59:00 - Continuous Refinement and Exploration 01:02:48 - The Energy of Seeking 01:05:44 - The Joy of Laughing with Others 01:08:56 - The Awakening and Separation 01:12:08 - Overwhelmed by the Beauty of Everything 01:15:20 - A Radical Change of Perspective 01:18:52 - Exiting the Incubator 01:22:11 - The Intelligence Orchestrating the Mind-Body System 01:24:33 - Flexibility and Freedom in Being 01:27:44 - The Hilarity and Suffering of the Ego 01:30:47 - The Metaphor of Lines on Stone, Sand, Water, and Air 01:33:53 - Consultations and Donations 01:36:53 - The Challenges of Managing Time 01:39:29 - Visit BATGAP.com Save