This week we caught up with Erika Hall, co-founder of Mule Design and author of Just Enough Research. We dive deep into a handful of topics, from user research to gender in tech, from the Apple Watch to the evolution of San Francisco culture - we had a lot of fun recording this one!

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3:00 - We catch up with Erika to learn about design research.

8:00 - What are some of the myths of design and research?

16:00 - Has Mule ever considered launching original products?

1:17:00 - Plugs!