(covers the second half of book 1 of Plato's Republic)

In this episode, Socrates goes up against his most formidable opponent yet: the sophist Thrasymachus. 

Thrasymachus leaps at Socrates “like a wild beast” and yells at him for playing dirty. Then, he tells the boys that morality is a lie and that they should do as much injustice as they can get away with. 

Socrates responds by winning the argument in the least persuasive way possible. 

Pod Art: Marijke Bouchier

Theme music: David Zikotivz, Clayton Tapp 

Ancient lyre music: Michael Levy 

Editing, episode art and social: Sepideh

Thrasymachus: Paul Sagar

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