Today John sits down with Rolf Geyling, President of the Santa Barbara Rescue Mission, for an honest and moving Advent-conversation about suffering, generosity, and what it really means to be present. From powerful stories of life transformation to Rolf’s own journey through profound loss, this episode reminds us that Christmas is not about fixing pain, but about Emmanuel. God with us. Especially when life hurts.

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Music Credits:
We Wish You a Merry Christmas by Chad Lawson - MB01M3YAWW2VF7W
O Christmas Tree by Chad Lawson - MB011CPPOUDHFOQ