This week's guest is Gary Jubelin. Gary worked in the NSW Police Force for 34 years and was one of Australia’s most well known homicide detectives, leading investigations into several high profile murders and disappearances.

This episode is a bit heavier than usual and contains conversations that some listeners may find confronting or triggering. Because of the nature of Gary’s work we discuss missing persons as well as murder, including the murder of young children. Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander listeners are also advised that this conversation mentions the names of deceased persons. So everyone please be kind to yourselves and keep your own boundaries in mind before listening to this one.

Gary lead the investigation into the disappearance of William Tyrell, the serial killing of three aboriginal children in Bowraville, he ran the crime scene following the Lindt Cafe siege in Sydney, has investigated organised crimes and gangs, is most well known for his work solving missing person cold cases, and was even the inspiration for a main character in one of the Underbelly TV series seasons.

Gary eventually resigned from the Police Force after allegations of misconduct had him removed from the William Tyrell case and he was later found guilty of illegally recording conversations with a witness.

Gary has a book out and a podcast both called I Catch Killers, which I’d highly recommend, it’s one of my most listened to and it’s super interesting if you love true crime. He interviews other high profile detectives as well as people on the other side of the coin that have committed some of these crimes.

We cover all of these topics, including how he goes about solving such complex crimes, his work ethic and the rigours of being a detective, the pressures of becoming a high profile cop.

This was a really interesting and different chat that I’m really proud of and excited for you to listen to, I think you’ll get a lot out of it. ILY xx

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