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The following is with one of the great living narrative non fiction writers, David Grann.

David is a staff writer at the New Yorker and author of one of my favourite stories of all time… the incredible life and adventures of Percy Fawcett and the Lost City Of Z.

David has of course, many other credits to his name, not least of which is authoring Killers Of The Flower Moon, which is a violent and horrifically true story from Americas wild west that has actually been turned into a movie featuring Leonardo DiCaprio & Martin Scorcese to be released this summer.

David Grann has also authored the unbelievably rich and incredible story from the 1700s called The Wager, this story is confirmation of the project brazen tagline, that sometimes the truth really is stranger than fiction. 

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• 00:00 – Introduction
• 02:14 – David’s Mum’s Influence On Him Becoming A Writer
• 07:22 – Introducing David To Nassim Taleb’s Black Swan & Publishing + David’s Experiences In Mexico
• 14:30 – Narrative Building + Sheer Body Of Research
• 27:02 – The Wager
• 43:14 – Sheer Body Of Research
• 52:16 – Working With Leonardo DiCaprio & Martin Scorcese
• 56:31 – The Role Of Serendipity In David’s Life
• 1:02:19 – Conversation Between Any Two People Of History + Great Stories Not Being Told

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Curious Things Mentioned During The Episode

• Bradley Hope
• Walt Bogdanich