When you're hiking a difficult trail, there's one question almost everyone asks:

"How much further?"

In this episode of Liberator, Chelsea shares the story of tackling one of the most challenging hikes she's ever completed in Yosemite National Park. Along the way, she noticed a familiar question being passed between hikers—and realized how closely it mirrors the journey toward freedom from pornography, betrayal trauma, and addiction recovery.

Whether you're just starting your healing journey or you've been climbing for a while, this conversation explores what it means to keep moving forward when the path feels steep, uncertain, and exhausting.