The Thinking Practitioner

144: Fascia, Emotion, Inflammation, & Attention (with Robert Schleip)


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🎙In this thought-provoking episode, Til and Whitney welcome back fascia researcher Robert Schleip to explore the evolving science behind fascia’s role in emotional regulation, inflammation, and sensory experience. They dive into Schleip’s keynote for the upcoming 7th International Fascia Research Congress and discuss emerging research on fascia as a dynamic neuro-immune interface.

Robert shares his updates on fascinating insights into attention, depression, touch, circadian rhythms, and how fascia may bridge body and mind in ways we’re only beginning to understand.

đź•‘ Key Topics

  • 04:15 – Schleip’s keynote preview: fascia, emotion, and immune interaction

  • 06:09 – The new direction of the 2025 Fascia Research Congress

  • 07:55 – Polyvagal theory and fascia: Schleip on Porges and the vagus nerve

  • 12:15 – Fascia and depression: new findings on thickened epimysium

  • 20:47 – Foam rolling, mindful attention, and emotional filtering in depression

  • 26:12 – Reticular formation, attention, and touch outcomes

  • 32:07 – Therapist vs client attention: new data on treatment impact

  • 37:12 – The history and evolution of the Fascia Research Congress

  • 44:04 – Fascia, safety, and perceptual context

  • 48:00 – Sliding fascia and emotional stress: 48-hour delay and resilience

  • 51:40 – New paradigm: from force transmission to circadian rhythms and synthesis

  • 56:21 – Schleip’s takeaway: return to wonder and curiosity under the stars

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    • Whitney Lowe’s site: AcademyOfClinicalMassage.com 
    • Til Luchau’s site: Advanced-Trainings.com 
    • Resources discussed in this episode: 

      • Fascia & depression study: Michalak J, Aranmolate L, Bonn A, Grandin K, Schleip R, et al. (2021) Myofascial Tissue and Depression, Cognitive Therapy and Research – https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8688142/
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          (The Thinking Practitioner Podcast is intended for professional practitioners of manual and movement therapies: bodywork, massage therapy, structural integration, chiropractic, myofascial and myotherapy, orthopedic, sports massage, physical therapy, osteopathy, yoga, strength and conditioning, and similar professions. It is not medical or treatment advice.)

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