This week, Gio and I sit down with Mike Kloppenburg, VP at Avison Young and longtime coworking insider, to pull back the curtain on what's really happening in the brokerage world, and what it means for flex operators. From the "flight to quality" and secondary market opportunities, to the messy reality of management agreements and the IWG land grab, Mike brings candid insights you won't get anywhere else.

What we cover:

• Why the big brokerages are cautiously optimistic, and where the optimism comes from.

• How the "flight to quality" is reshaping both traditional office leasing and flex space demand.

• Secondary and tertiary markets: where the supply-demand balance tips in favor of operators.

• The challenges of management agreements, how IWG's aggressive expansion is affecting the industry, and why deal structure still makes or breaks success.

• Scaling beyond your home market: why granular, on-the-ground market knowledge is non-negotiable.

Resources Mentioned in this Podcast:

Michael on LinkedIn

Avison Young website

2025 Americas Office Occupier Sentiment Survey

2025 Mid-Year Outlook

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