Warren and Davydd are joined by our old friend Steve Matthews to talk about his little side hustle - Sure Brewing.

As ever there is a delicious tasting pack to accompany this episode available from our online shop: https://the-coolroom-podcast.myshopify.com/products/sure-brewing-4-pack 

We hear all of Steve's latest news and what led him to start a side project and what he hopes to do with the brand.

We hear what it's like for a professional brewer to gypsy brew on another kit, which hops he thinks are best for WCIPAs and what he would never put in a beer. 

And in the words of Warren Wu "Oh so much editing..."