Unless you’re living under a rock, or have avoided all forms of social media (even clubhouse back when that had its moment) you will have heard of, and probably learned from, today's guests. They’re a dynamic duo of a failed lawyer and an ex-policeman who are now well known consultants, mentors, leaders and perhaps most importantly, no bullshit estate agents. It’s fitting that this is episode 180 because if they weren't world class estate agents, they’d look the part up on stage at the darts.