Meet Robyn and Jamie in the first edition of their new podcast.

Once you've enjoyed the witty title about lots of seconds, you'll want to know what's in it.

This week they talk about how some autistic people measure their energy in spoons, sensory overload, how Jamie creates his independent life, cooking pizzas on top of a microwave (!?), going non-verbal, repeating things over and over (echolalia). And more. And more than that.

Basically, it's a talk show presented by two autistic people. It's insightful and it's funny. Enjoy.

The podcast that makes you think twice about how you think.