In this wide-ranging and eye-opening conversation, Ginny sits down with Debra Williams, a health and wellness advocate, mom, and creator of Mind Body Blend “healthy advocacy” apparel. Debra shares her journey from working in a children’s hospital wellness center to questioning why true preventative care like nutrition, toxins, time outside, and lifestyle, rarely shows up in mainstream medical conversations. She and Ginny talk candidly about asking hard questions around childhood health, their own experiences with vaccine injury, and what it means to make genuinely informed decisions in a system that often discourages dissent and critical thinking.

From there, the conversation widens to the larger forces shaping childhood today: the normalization of AI and GPS that quietly erode our memory and attention, the peer pressure around smartphones and social media, and the way online culture is collapsing “middle childhood” into grown-up beauty standards and consumerism. Debra shares how her family is choosing a more low-tech, play-filled path, including starting local low-tech and holistic parenting groups, moving toward homeschooling, and helping her 10-year-old daughter stay a kid a little longer, still riding bikes, playing with stuffed animals, and creating instead of scrolling. If you’ve ever felt uneasy about screens, school, or the speed at which childhood seems to be disappearing, this episode will leave you both challenged and deeply encouraged to build real-life community and protect a simpler, more human way of growing up.

Learn more about Debra at www.mindbodyblend.com

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