John Hudak, deputy director of the Center for Effective Public Management and a senior fellow in Governance Studies, discusses the fundamental dynamics of the 2016 election, the importance of the ground game, vice presidential picks, and prospects for the Senate and/or House flipping from Republican to Democratic control. "I think policy itself is what's not getting enough attention in these campaigns. … It is not something that is a sexy issue that people want to particularly hear about, they are more interested in the horse race or in this case the fighting that is going on," Hudak says. "What Americans need to do is take a step back and think about the issues that matter most to them. You have to think a lot about what issues matter the most to you and hold the candidates accountable as much as possible." Also in this podcast, Teresa Ter-Minassian explains public-private partnerships and their role in development based on her paper for the new project on 21st Century City Governance. Show Notes After California, it's time for Clinton and Trump to pick their VPs Fiscal and financial issues for 21st century cities Thanks to audio engineer and producer Zack Kulzer, with editing help from Mark Hoelscher, plus thanks to Carisa Nietsche, Bill Finan, Jessica Pavone, Eric Abalahin, Rebecca Viser, and our intern Sara Abdel-Rahim. Subscribe to the Brookings Cafeteria on iTunes, listen in all the usual places, and send feedback email to [email protected]